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Thursday, January 6, 2011

Teacher Salary

Below is the teacher salary schedule.  The whole teacher contract is available on seethroughny.net [click here for the whole contract].  You will have to select:
School District Name: Hamburg Csd
Contract Type: Teacher







Appendix A
BA SALARY SCHEDULE









Step

2007-2008

2008-2009



1

32,750

32,750



2

33,750

33,750



3

34,000

34,000



4

34,750

34,750



5

35,350

35,350



6

36,338

36,338



7

37,336

37,336



8

38,496

38,496



9

39,739

39,739



10

41,910

41,910



11

43,828

43,828



12

44,830

44,830



13

45,736

45,736



14

46,525

46,525



15

47,758

47,758



16

52,766

52,766



17

54,249

54,249



18

63,315

63,315



19

73,335

73,335



















MA SALARY SCHEDULE









Step

2007-2008

2008-2009



1

35,000

36,000



2

36,000

37,000



3

37,025

38,025



4

37,995

39,100



5

39,475

40,250



6

40,868

41,550



7

42,460

43,000



8

43,670

44,500



9

45,718

46,100



10

47,270

47,800



11

48,250

49,600



12

49,600

51,500



13

53,350

53,500



14

55,000

55,750



15

57,500

58,250



16

61,000

61,000



17

65,000

65,000



18

70,500

71,000



19

81,500

82,000





42 comments:

Waiting for Step 19 said...

Try paying back your student loans for four years of undergrad and two years of grad school on $36,000 a year. Also try paying for a car, cell phone, mortgage, utilities, food, taxes only to have your school board kick you in the teeth and give the new superintendent a $9,000 raise.

Anonymous said...

Gregg Davis working part time makes more than the highest salary step of a teacher with a MA.

Brandon McWhirter said...
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Anonymous said...

OMG...thats a very low salary for a profession...stack it up next to the administrators and the taxpayer ought to be shouting from the roof tops!!! "WHERES OUR MONEY GOING?????" Lights on the field perhaps?

Darlene S. said...

If you want to make the money, become an administrator or move to a different district to get more pay.

It's all about the students.

Concernedparent1 said...

Again Darlene - do you want your kids being taught by those who the district settled for b/c the good ones took nyour advice. Yes, its about the kids, but at the end of the day the teachers have to pay the bills and feed their families.

Anonymous said...

A few of them work at school for 12 hours plus. And the rest have homework, I assume. The Fed Govt and State Govt wants to change how teachers are paid and I think it might be a good idea. No more 19 steps... :)

Anonymous said...

Yes Darlene, it is all about the kids. Hamburg teachers and aides don't need to be told that. We go above and beyond for our students every single day. If this district agrees with that and cares enough about the kids, they would care about having and keeping quality teachers. But they don't care about the staff or the kids. That is the point of this entire blog...that the people calling the shots only care about themselves. They all have their own agendas. Just look at their salaries, their politics, their nepotism, their illegal practices. It is absolutely disgusting. Hamburg's teachers, aides, and support staff, the people on the front lines working with your children, are the heart and soul of this district! Unfortunately, they are continually disrespected and degraded by the BOE and administrators. Enough is enough!

Sad Hamburger said...

Not to mention that HHS has ALREADY lost some very good teachers to neighboring districts because of this reason exactly. It should make Darlene S smile that some of our best teachers are leaving because of the pay and the lack of support from the BOE and the administration.

It's all about the kids though.... and when the HCSD drops in the Business First rankings and Darlene S is complaining about the teachers - keep these facts in mind.

I'm sure if Darlene could be making $10,000 or more in a new place for doing the same job - she'd take it. So would the next person who fills her place, and the next, and the next....

The problem isn't hiring teachers - it is RETAINIG THEM - and what you end up with is a revolving door of teachers who don't stay on to become veteran mentors to the newer staff - then the new staff struggles, gets burnt out, leaves the profession or hunts for a job elsewhere.

I am getting so sick and tired of hearing this "all about the kids" stuff. You want to buy a Lexus for the cost of a Gremlin.

How about this attitude? SUPPORT THE TEACHERS. Work WITH them. In the end - an unhealthy, unsupported teaching staff will not be as productive with the students.

Mr. Kotter said...

January 6, 2011 3:09 PM- No way does "bonus" pay for teachers whose students score high on exams help students. Teaching to the test will destroy education.

concernedparent1 said...

The problem is not that they want to pay for quality, it's how they measure this "quality". Teaching to a test is a blatent contridiction to best practices. Its sad that those in charge, here and at the state level do not have a firm grasp of educational methods 101. All kids are different...they learn different and they achieve differently. If a student comes in 2 years below grade level and leaves only 1 year behind he may not seem proficient on a standardized test, but he certainly learned.

Bob said...

Bring back Brandon Wiley to WNY and let him run this district. Or allow Geoff Grace to return from retirement. Or Margaret Moses. Or Lawrence Hood.

Anonymous said...

what did brandon wiley do in west seneca? Really, Moses....you gotta be joking...she squandered the liberty partnership money and turned her face when on the BOE. Is Larry Hood alive? Get a clue and realize there are so many talented people that wont sell their soul to donny oz.

Anonymous said...

Please keep in mind that these teacher salaries are based on 10 months. Therefore a top step MA is making the equivalent of 98.4k. (Salary + (Salary/5))
Principals and Administrators work 12 months and often spend many extra hours as well. As a matter of fact, unless they are fortunate to gain a supervisory position early in their career, many even take a cut in pay to start in such a role. Making less per diem than if they had stayed in teaching. It is not just about the money. And before you criticize the supervisor’s salaries at Hamburg you should take into account the length of employment. Because for better or worse, longevity has the benefit of greater salaries. Just like your “Top Step” goal. The system has its flaws but there no simple solution.
Be grateful for what you have and work toward improvement together without trying to bring others down or simple dollar comparisons. Everyone wants to make more money so try not to criticize those that are right now because of envy or the frustration of being “Contract-less”. Be glad there is no Buffalo-like control board that could hold your wages 6, 7, 8 years.

Anonymous said...

Margaret Moses. Or Lawrence Hood.

yes! yes! yes!

Anonymous said...

Mr. Kotter 3:09 PM- No way does "bonus" pay...

Ok 19 years of steps is better? The State has a good idea. And the Fed is going to Fix this if they ever get around to it. It's a nation wide problem and it's not just about pay.

Concernedeparent1 said...

Take a few minutes today. Add these hours. Teachers do not work
9 - 5 for 10 months. I am at work at 7:30 am. I spend 1/2 hour getting my room ready for the day. My students come in at 8am. I teach or have a duty until 2:35. I then spend another 1/2 reflecting, organizing and responding to parent and other emails. If I am in luck I can walk out at 3:00pm. Even if I do, I still have to plan, make copies, and grade assignemnets. I am constantly thinking and reflecting on my day's lesson. Often it is not until my own kids are fed, bathed, and I have spent quality time with them, this gets done. I have 2 "open" periods throughout my day. Many times I am dealing with student issues, gathering work for absent kids, catching kids who were absent up, or taking care of someother responsibility I may have. I often do not get a lunch outside my classroom. If I do I certainly cannot go anywhere or take care of my personal stuff. Many times I have kids afterschool, working or catching up. Often I have a meeting, because I am expected to serve on various committees. Sometimes I have a class, because even though I have an MS I still need to take a minimum of 15 hours a year in course work.

Over the summer I can also be found spending time in my classroom, planning or taking course work.

I am not complaining. I love my job. But please do not tell me that I only work 10 months a year. I just fit 12 months of nonacademic work into those 10 months.

Paul said...

Hey concerned parent1--You work 10 months a year. What you go through bathing your kids and spending quality time with them is nothing that myself or any other parent goes through, only difference is, I do it all year round.

And please, you really think 15 hours a year is a lot to accomplish?

Happy with the Teachers . said...

I am going to defend the teachers here.
I am not a tacher, and am very grateful for that. I would be a horrible teacher,It takes a special person to do this job and do it well.It is not easy.

My childrens teachers have often sent emails at nine or ten at night, so as for the day not being 9-5, your are right. During the 10 month school year it is never ending. The class prep time alone must be at least 1-2 hours per day and what about correcting all of those papers or projects that are assigned. Not to mention concerts, open house and filed trips that all go well beyond a school day.

I appreciate my childrens teachers very much, they work hard for our children. I have six children in the district and five of them who attend HCSD, and all of their teachers take more time for my children then would ever be expected. This includes the secretaries, Principal's, vice principal's, lunch ladies,school nurses, cafeteria workers and so on. All of whom work for less wages then should ever be expected. I believe the Principal should make at least six figures they oversee the day to day aspect of our childrens education, at least at the elementary level.

The majority of the teachers all have masters degrees I have an associates degree work part time, have a flexible schedule and make more than a step 10 employee. Trying raising a family on that income and with no flexibility in time off and the tireless hours they spend dealing with us parents, whom many are royal pains in the A... I will continue to work my summers, and not begrudge them for having them off they deserve it, and frankly need it.

Try living in the Village of Hamburg on a teachers salary, my school taxes alone are five thousand every year. Give the teachers the salary they deserve. lets face it they can make cuts somewhere else. Many alternatives exist.

concernedparent1 said...

The 15 hours of coursework is on top of everything else.If I don't complete it, my wages actually get docked. Last year I actually clocked 47 hours of coursework.

I am not trying to complain or say that I have it any harder than anyone else. I made a choice to work in education and I do not regret it. I am just tired of people who aren't in the field thinking that the job is a cake walk and the taxpayers are being taken for a ride. I don't work in Hamburg, but I live in the village and my kids go to the schools. I would llike to see my children continue to have the best possible teachers.

Anonymous said...

Miss ? works an easy 12 hour day, Monday through Friday. She always smiles and is very kind to everyone. I am glad the school didn't participate in the NYS effort to get older teachers out this year. Parents of students comment that they had her in school, when they come back after school hours to get forgoten student items. and it's priceless because she is in the building still and hears and sees it. :)

Klozman said...

Anonymous - Jan 6, 6:46 pm

How does a salary of $82,000 magically turn into $98,400. Whether the wages are based on a 10 month or 12 month period the amount still remains $82,000. With whom did you study voodoo economics? You are definitely epistemologically challenged.

Anonymous said...

The median salary for all workers in Erie County is $34,446. Teachers start out at more than that and by the time they reach their top tier they make 2.5x that. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me for a 10 month work year. You guys should have plenty of time to complain about your pay on Martin Luther King Day. You're off that day right?

Anonymous said...

Where does your data come from? Are people on social security and social services included in your data? Also, many County employees are unskilled labor with little post-high school education. Teachers all have MAs. Would you like someone with just a high school diploma or maybe an associates degree to teach your students.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Klozman, I had Cliff Huen. Speaking of Mr. Huen I sure wish he would comment on the schools contracts and budget...

class of 94 said...

Mr Huen was working a half day, never EVER went to a school board meeting (other than the January 2011) meeting, now he attends union meetings, and then reports everything back to the administration. He traveled with his multiple girlfriends (while married) to union events, and most others from other districts thought he was the arrogant man that stood in front of classes and that ignored the members of his union for years. He is a man with nothing going on except a destructive disposition. And if you had him for Economics, I hope you sue the district for carpal tunnel syndrom as all you did was re-write his crusty yellow overhead notes. He was on the take from the district....he retired on $111,000 salary...go figure that out!!!!!

Mr. Kotter said...

To those who criticize teacher pay, even if you prorate the salary for 10 months, it doesn't compare to private sector employees with a Master's Degree. Several of my friends who graduated with me earned MBA's. They STARTED in the financial/banking world with at least $50k in salary and have gone up significantly since then. I did not get into teaching to get rich, but don't try to bring us down.

I drove a beat up rusty Chevy for the first 6 yrs of my employment, while my buddies hit the new car lots after graduation.

Mr. Kotter said...

January 6, 2011 8:19 PM- Not sure what your issue is, 19 steps is bad, but "merit" pay would create a nightmare for teachers and more importantly students.

Anonymous said...

Huen failed me and i had him for the year. I dont care what his personal life is like, He tought my mother also. Me and you are playing checkers while Cliff has been playing Chess.

Anonymous said...

And Cliff could work out contracts!

Anonymous said...

Thank you Happy With the Teachers! It's nice to hear that someone appreciates Hamburg teachers. I know most of the parents actually do because they know firsthand what goes on in the schools.

Bravo class of 94! Cliff Huen is just another sheister with his own agenda. He was always right in the administrations' pocket.

Anonymous said...

Klozman, you appear to be older and well educated with your outdated latin phrases and big syllable words, but you and your cohort CH missed the point. I am not insisting that anyone deserve inflated salaries and find it comical that you mention a posters anonymity in Friday’s headline post if you perceive a comment to be counter productive to your cause. Since day one, every thread and comment in this blog has been anonymous. Especially for those who have given life to this blog.
Sure a 10-monther’s W-2 will show the contractual amount from Hamburg but keep in mind that is with 2.4 months off. For the contractual time for the school year, the per diem rate is respectable. And no one in any school district works 365 or or even 260 days a year.
Sure other districts pay more. Hamburg salaries have always been below average. Dare I say maybe even for admin staff? But, there is no voodoo. It’s a simple ratio if they were to work 12 months at that per diem rate. Get your paper and pencil out and do the math. The point was that there is criticism of a few principal’s salaries that make only a third more in a supervisory role. If teachers want/receive more don’t you think the administrative staff will use that to their benefit based on past practice? The ladder has rungs and everyone looks to the next highest as a goal. Imagine how tough it is for all the support staff in the district who make even less.
Lastly, I am not condoning or supporting SA’s contract with Hamburg. There are hidden perks for all the Supers in this area. That hidden part should be exposed, especially the cost to the taxpayers for all those days up front that can be converted to cash on exit and are not on a budget line. Who knows what was actually proposed by SA but those are the details that were agreed upon by the board. I can’t fault SA for asking for a lot since they obviously wanted him, but I can find fault with the RSB for giving a lot. Maybe they thought it was business as usual without public scrutiny. No union for SA!
P.S. Did you see the article in the Buff News about possible layoffs again? Was that mentioned in public at the last Board Meeting?

Anonymous said...

No staff cuts were not mentioned. Achramo skirted over that. Good thing teachers have to hear about potential cuts from the newspaper.

Anonymous said...

yep, Cliff signed the contract in use now.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Kotter,
If you are envious of your MBA friend’s starting salaries, or what they are now making compared to you, maybe you should have done some research while in college to pick a career that makes more money. To be a teacher was your choice. To teach at Hamburg, if you do, was your choice as well. I don’t believe any of these posts are trying to put you or your bargaining unit down. If getting rich was not your plan, I’m afraid you have succeeded based on your post. At least you have a TRS retirement.

Klozman said...

Anonymous (Jan 7, 5:37)

Appearances are deceptive.

Of course my Latin phrases are outdated. It's been a dead language for centuries. Concerning this Blog, I have no cohorts; I function as an independent. I have but one goal, which is to correct a wrong perpetrated by Achramo and his RSB. Nothing anyone has said thus far is counterproductive to this cause; conversely, none has addressed it.

I often have the effect of bringing out the the best in people or, at least, giving them a nudge...look at that fine article you just wrote.

Anonymous said...

Dear 5:09:

Yes, Cliff could work out a contract...from inside the administrators' pockets! Again, he had his own agenda. He did nothing for the good of the whole union. That's why Hamburg teachers are some of the lowest paid in the area.

Mom4Teachers said...

Wow! To the couple of people on this blog who keep ranting about teacher salaries, get a life! You really have nothing better to complain about? It's not like these salaries are anything to write home about. Hamburg teachers aren't raking in the big bucks. Actually, the pay is pretty low for an individual with a master's degree.

My childrens' teachers are fabulous and hard working. When I volunteer in the classroom I see all of the preparation, time, knowledge, and effort these teachers put forth. Teaching isn't just a job for them. They truly love and care about our kids. As a parent, that means the world to me! Teachers deserve every cent they make. I hope the teachers settle their contract and get the raises they have coming to them, long overdue.

You have too much time on your hands if you are calculating out how much per day a teacher makes with a summer break. You really should put away your paper and pencil, and go volunteer to help out in a classroom. I think it would be a valuable experience for you to get a gimpse into what this profession entails. Then you would also be doing something more worthwhile and productive with your time. You could also share your extraordinary math skills with the students.

But seriously, there are so many REAL things you could complain about. A hard working person with a master's degree, teaching our children, making a difference, and earning $36,000 is not something worth complaining about.

concernedparent1 said...

Well said mom4teachers! Thankyou hamburg teachers, as well as some of the admistrators. I am glad to have my children in a HCD school.

Anonymous said...

To Paul who posted on this blog...can you really be serious? I am sure for a fact that your wife does all the work. I bet your an adminstrator too! Why else would you be shooting your mouth off for?

Anonymous said...

A hand full are over paid and most are under paid, welcome to HCSD.

Anonymous said...

Teachers are overpaid at 82,00 after waiting years and years.