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Monday, March 21, 2011

School Board Work Session
Tuesday, March 22nd
UPES Auditorium
6:30 p.m.


Hamburg is not alone in their lack of knowledge on Open Meetings Laws.  Please read the article on Niagara Falls [click here for article].

58 comments:

SB breaking the law said...

This is exactly what is going on here in Hamburg, they simply don't get it. The school board is an arrogant bunch and this supt. with all his supposed experience doesn't get it either. The Hamburg Central School Dist has been having illegal meetings for years. They want to run the school dist. in secret. They need to be reminded that this is what got them into trouble in the past financially, loosing $1.8 million, giving $85,000. plus dollars to the Hamburg fOUNDATION of our tax dollars. The negitive audits from State Comp. Di'Napoli they cannot hide from or deny.
Concerned please repost DiNapoli's audit for our school dist. The school board needs to be reminded that they serve our school district and that they are breaking the law.

not above the law said...

Oh yes,

Open meetings laws are Federal and State Laws. Article 78 charges have been filed against our school district for violating these laws. The school dist. has been reminded that they cannot go into executive session just because they don't want to deal with the dist residents at their school board meetings. Some changes to their meetings have been made, but they still are not in compliance.

Anonymous said...

Just found out from an earlier post that Supt. didn't take an oath of office when he was interium. So I guess all his lying was ok because he didn't take an oath. We have a real loser here good role model for my kids.

Anonymous said...

The District didn't give any money to the Foundation. The District helped the Foundation get started, but there was no money. Transparency is important. Agreed. But, rumor mongering isn't transparency. The Foundation is needed as $$ is short and gifts will be needed. Teachers should give more to the Foundation, Administrators should too.

no rumor mongering here said...

No rumor mongoring here

Dear Concerned, please post your Dec. audit of the foundation and the school board from NYS Comptoller DiNapoli. This writer is in denial.

to quote the NYS Comptroller division of local Govt. and school accountability.
"during audit period the school board IMPROPERLY TRANSFERED $83,000in trust fund assets to the foundation. The School Board had no authority to transfer these funds bequeathed to the dist, to the foundation to administer in its behalf".... as the ex director and treasurer of the foundation, the bd pres had significant interest in the foundation operation. Although he indicated that he did not receive or direct financial benefit from the foundation, the potential exists for him to receive direct and indirect financial or other benefits. In addition, another Dist. Board member was also simultaneously a director for the foundation. The school board pres independence as well as that of the other board members may be impaired when presenting resolutions to the school board regarding transfer of funds to the foundation."

Response form the district

"once again I wish to say that the overarching goal is to be as TRANSPARENT as possible so that all stake holders have a solid understanding of the dists financial status regard to revenuse and expenses."
I wish this was so, so why all the secret meeting as well as voting on consensus items.
(the hamburg foundation is not part of the school dist; It is governed by bd. of directors, which has an 11 member board Oz is the director).

Quote Thomas Jefferson
"whenever the people are well informed,they can be trusted with their own...This will give you an enlightened people and an energetic public opinion." This present bd, just doesn't get it.

alum said...

I wouldn't give one $ to the hamburg foundation. Don't trust donald ogilvie anymore. He ignored our recommendation for supt, wasted our time with his sham of a search comm. Sorry Don no $$ for foundation. I will give directly to deserving student and not through you. alum

remove blinders said...

take you blinders off, the school dist DID GIVE the Hamburg Foundation 83k illegally. Read the report and stop your denial. This dist is in a financial crisis because of their mismanagemt of our school taxes.

Anonymous said...

illegal meetings

it is illegal to preschedule executive sessions. The SB refuses to comply with the law. Keep filing article 78 charges against them until they get it.

Anonymous said...

The new field passed in the vote by a 4 to 1 margin, at least. The Foundation did NOT receive an $83,000 benefit. Read the report carefully. Foundation has independent auditors and audits are obtainable. Reducing admin overall payroll by $100,000 to save two teachers is a good idea. Ogilvie has had nothing to do with the Foundation for years. Sally S. knows little about education.

Anonymous said...

All Sally S. knows about education is that her daughter was let go by the District last spring. Where was she for the last ten years while this storm was forming? She is a very good person who cares about her family, but she has no more idea how to fix the problems than a sophomore in the Finance Academy. Her Article 78 helped to open the process and we are thankful for that.

Anonymous said...

Just to clarify the situation between the school district and the Foundation. The district did in fact tranfer $83,000 to the Foundation that was left to the district in someone's will and they were not tax dollars. The Foundation at that time was unaware that the funds were left to the district, not to the Foundation. The Foundation accepted those funds in good faith believing that they were entitled to them. After it came to light that the Foundation was not to be the recipient, the Foundation paid the money plus interest back to the district. With regards to Don Ogilvie being the Executive Director of the Foundation. Mr. Ogilvie accepted in May of 2008 the position as interim Executive Director of the Foundation. He subsequently resigned from that position in 2009. Since that time the position of Executive Director of the Foundation has been vacant. The Foundation until several months ago failed to realize that he was still listed as Executive Director on the website. That has since been corrected and his name has been dropped from the site. To date the Foundation has awarded over $100,000 in grants and scholarships to Hamburg teachers and students.

Anonymous said...

to anonymous 3/22/ 5:58 am

than you don't know Sally. She is a through and thoughtful and knowledgeable person. You on the other hand resent the fact that she has challenged this bd. regarding open meetings laws in a court of law.

Anonymous said...

anonym

you apparently don't know Sally. Examine yourself.

sally s is the best said...

Anonymous Sally knows more about education than most. Besides when did anyone in hamburg question the educational knowledge of any board member. Had that been a qualification we would be here. Sally is smart, and is the woman for the job.

Anonymous said...

Sally is indeed smart and at this point she knows more about education than most. Sally has an agenda though. This is about her daughter not about the good of the District. She wouldn't know where to cut after cutting out an administrator and selling the Abbott Rd bldg. We need financial people on the bd, not people with personal agends.

grateful Dad & Mom said...

Hey anonymous;
forget about taking a poke at Sally. She is the only person to intervene with this school board to force them to conduct business legally. ie: open meetings laws. As an earlier post, you couldn't imagine the volunteer work she has done for kids in need. Because of her and others our child is able to come home and thrive with many disadvantages on his side. I will go the the wall for her. Grateful Dad and Mom

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 3/21 11;55

you mean to tell us that the State Comptroller DiNapoli, lied about the School Board and Hamburg Foundation's audit that they performed. I don't think so.

get it right said...

to anonymous 3/21 11:55

yes they gave the 83,000 dollars back after the auditors from the State Comptrollers office told them to with interest.

Anonymous said...

anony 11:55

well written, I still will believe the auditors from the comptrollers office over and school dist. After all their word is law, not the school district. Nice try

Anonymous said...

How stupid do you thing we are.

Of course the district has auditors, that they hire and pay for. The real audit comes from DiNapoli, who isn't paid for by the district. The Comptrollers office performs an
INDEPENDANT audit and that is where all the truth comes out. CONCERNED HAMBURGER perhaps you need to repost the audit from Erie 1 BOCES, School Board and Hamburg Foundion. Let the truth be told.

Anonymous said...

How would you know what Sally's agenda is. Did you ever talk to her engage her in conversation? I sincerely doubt it. I personally don't care why she is running, I do know that she has a lot going for her, she hands down is a qualified individual who would be an asset to any board.
Yes administrator or sb member if this is you writing I would be afraid also if I were you, she will not put up with rubber stamping everything. That game would be over. She will engage discussion, dialoge and can accept criticism with grace.

Anonymous said...

As I said, Sally is a capable woman. She and many others should run. That there would be choices would be a good thing. But, remember that her first act will be to try and find a way to get her daughter re-hired which would be OK but would not be in keeping with seniority. The Foundation is not the problem here. Our District and so many others dont have enough funding. Tax breaks for the rich instead.

Klozman said...

Aha! Watch now as the scumbags ascend to the top of their cesspool in what will no doubt be a series of wide-ranging attacks on Sally S. Unfortunately for them, she represents the one ideal that they are ill-equipped to counter...she is honest, they are not. She also acquired far more valuable experience as a Hamburg Town Councilperson and Deputy Town Clerk than the majority on the current RSB will ever have. Some perceive that her only goal is revenge. To this charge I say, the mendacity conspired by the slovenly Achramo/RSB to terminate Lindsey is odious beyond measure. What better impetus to inspire Sally S. to correct the deficiencies of that appalling, disgraceful group of ne’er do wells. Alas, the piper will be paid. The Achramo/RSB hath awakened a sleeping dragon...alea iacta est (the die has been cast)! As for Wexlax, her main opponent in the May election, who seems to relish puerile attempts at intimidation, the community would be far better served if he would retire to the nearest restroom, square his butt on any available commode, rest an elbow on his knee and a hand on his forehead (ala Rodin’s sculpture, “The Thinker”) and contemplate his next movement.

Anonymous said...

March 22, 2011 12:30 PM-- WICHLACZ and NEYMAN run as financial candidates because of round 1 of Tom Bagley's (& Roswell's) financial errors.

Instead how about a candidate that knows education.

Anonymous said...

Now as a person who served with Sally on the town board, let me enlighten you. Sally at the time was the youngest person ever elected to the Town Board as a Councilperson, representing approx 60,000 population. Her tenure along with the other 4 members of that board and a (superior financial director James Spute), received for those 8 years the highest award from the State for sound fiscal management, many of those years with a zero property tax increase .
Sally was always for the underdog or those disadvantaged. During a difficult time when many were opposing the new concept of Group Homes she was on board pressing hard for (posssibly) the first group home in our community. That group home is almost accross the street from her home.
Sally wrote and sponsored a resolution to allow the public to speak on all resolutions that were on the floor for discussion. She felt that after a bill is passed, it is too late for the public to respond. She wanted the public in on the decision making.
Sally will serve this district well.

parent said...

Hamburg School Board members:
every pink slip you issue not only
affects the individual but his/her family also. You need to all get a conscious and think of the impact on all these families.

you better bow to greg w. said...

Klozman,
I agree with your assessment of Greg W., way out of line with personal and district taxpayers. We know how he has gone after teachers. Look at the attack that he had on some of our union officials. Lies, threats, anyone who displeases him could end up a victim. It is no wonder that they removed him as School Board President. He has run this district into the ground and now he wants to blame teachers. Wake up Greg you voted for everything, you are directly responsible for the past sins of this district. You have never challenged anything you just accept whatever you want to believe and take it as gospel.

stop blaming teachers said...

Stop Blaming the teachers.

This past and present school boards are responsible for the situation our school district is in.
We are in a financial crisis mode now and they want to blame anyone but themselves. Most governing boards have long range planning, reserve funds and resources they can relay on for unforseen circumstances. This dist. apparently has made financial planning a low priority.

Anonymous said...

Kelly Harper,

you were wise to stay away from the school board meeting yesterday. The rumor has it that Armor is going to be hit hard with the lay offs. Kelly hang in there you are our only hope for this board.

say you're sorry sb said...

Editorial in Buffalo News 3/22
MEETINGS MUST BE OPEN

School boards break the law when discussing budget problems in secret.
to quote the news "Local school boards that have closed their doors to the public when making difficult budgetary dicisions should offer every taxpayer a written apology.... whether they know it or not-and we believe that elected public officials should-they are flaunting the state's Open Meetings Law". Hamburg school board say you're sorry

Anonymous said...

Getting the district to follow open meeting laws, is like trying to get water to run up hill.

against NYS ED.Law said...

to anonymous 3/22/ 3:16 PM,

I agree Sally is capible. Now for you comment just for clarification
"but remember her first act will be to try to find a way to get her daughter re-hired which would be ok"... First you know not of her agenda, secondly under NYS ED. Law Sally or any other BD. member is prohibited from voting on family member for employment. Need a super majority.

Anonymous said...

How can hamburg hand out pink slips tomorrow when they have not held their open meetings with the public yet?

Anonymous said...

Violation of the law

Everytime the school board refuses to discuss staff cuts or money matters in secret, they are violating the open meetings law. This board has not once discuseed the staff cuts in public.

Anonymous said...

Has anybody lost their job from the budget mess? The SUN had a write up about some job cuts at the Hamburg Schools.

Anonymous said...

This department is lean to start with.

• Maintenance
– 1.0 FTE reduction

atotal fan said...

Stop increasing the unemployment rate in WNY today. Say no to layoffs, borrow money when the economy is bad, pay it back when economy bounces back. We our the greatest nation in all history and this small mis match of numbers can be fixed without increasing other problems. Ask the employees, parents, taxpayers, and students and they assure you job cuts are wrong.

A Reader said...

March 2011
Dear,
Teacher/School Media Specialist:
POST YOUR SUMMER READING LIST!
Each year, the Buffalo and Erie County Public Library posts summer reading lists from area schools on its website, www.buffalolib.org. If you would like your school’s reading list to be included for the summer of 2011, please send it in electronic format, already
formatted for printing. Examples of file formats that will be accepted include PDF, Microsoft Word and Microsoft Excel. All lists will be converted to PDF (Adobe Acrobat) for posting at www.buffalolib.org. Please email the file to Kathy Goodrich at
goodrichk@buffalolib.org or mail a disk to Kathy Goodrich’s attention at:

Central Library
1 Lafayette Square
Buffalo, NY 14203

Files need to be received no later than Monday, June 13, 2011 in order to be included.

update BOE info said...

April 5th!

Anonymous said...

Hey.
thank you concerned, any lay offs which is rumored to happen today should be challenged in a court of law. The sb has violated the open meetings law again and again and again. Everyone is guessing as to when and who will be laid off? All the meetings were covered by our own and we were kept out of all their discussions on teacher and staff cuts. This was all done IN VIOLATION OF THE OPEN MEETINGS LAWS. Union Officials I expect you to challenge these violations in a court of law. I have been paying union dues and I expect you to take this district on.

Anonymous said...

End of the line for Casey Neyman and Gregory Wichlacz is in sight! Vote in change!

Anonymous said...

I love how the school board is having all these meetings about capital improvements when they gave so many teachers and other staff their pink slips today! Like we would really vote for them to raise our taxes for improvements to the schools while our children are left without their teachers! UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

31 cuts and we're still crying.

teacher said...

Dear concerned,
We should fly our flags at half mast, I feel that this school board is the DEATH of this great school district.

Anonymous said...

Give them the boot, let us unite and elect new school board members.
We don't deserve this nor do our students who we love.

teacher said...

Kelly , what part did you have in the 31 lay offs?

my friend given pink slip said...

This board has to be stopped. Elect new school board members and sent them a strong message 31 lay offs and no sacrifices from administration.

hurt said...

Concerned,
are you hurt or sick? Please respond, we need some kind words,we are hurting. Our district has let us and our students down.

atotal fan said...

Please update

A Reader said...

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Anonymous said...

wow...i believe that concerned hamburger has given the people information and no one has asked a tough question to the RSB...how much are they spending on a lawyer from NYC? has the administration taken a real cut? ask these questions and make them uncomfortable...the board meeting are a joke...there is a 500lb gorrilla in the room and we watch as exchange students tell us how great our teachers are...citizens of hamburg you should be ashamed and angered at what your school district has become...no one who values education would even think of moving into your town, even with the plummenting home prices...check it out your property values are going down...people can't sell their homes in hamburg...i wonder why? high taxes and crappy schools...what a great formula...i am an alumni and i loved hamburg but i wouldn't live there or send my children to the bare boned, no vision school district which the once mighty hamburg central was...i feel bad for my friends who still live there...sorry to rant but pretty sad hamburg pretty sad...PS THE ART SHOW AT THE HUB THE ART STUDENTS AT THE HUB WERE AMAZINING TODAY...too bad your school district doesn't value what our students and teachers do..:(

Unknown said...

Hey CH you have reader's who miss the info. What's new in your life Concerned Hamburger?

Anonymous said...

Get your resumes ready! Are you unemployed or underemployed and looking for work? The area's premier Job Fair will take place on Wednesday, March 30th from 9 a.m. until 2 p.m. at the Buffalo Niagara Convention Center. Free and open to the public.

Anonymous said...

Concerned taxpayer says: Stop the whining. What is the District to do? Personnel costs are too high in HCSD and everywhere else. Cuomo seems to get this. It's layoffs or cost reductions through employee union concessions. We all wish that wasn't the case but reality is knocking at the door. There isn't enough money, here or elsewhere. The Board is stuck. Who has a real idea?

Anonymous said...

Lawyers are needed to defend frivolous lawsuits by teachers.

Dougie said...

Anonymous, frivolous lawsuits? What lawsuits?

Anonymous said...

Have you read the papers? Cuomo says there should be no need for teacher layoffs. He says districts should look at the top first and then use their fund balances to make up the difference. Hamburg is too top heavy and all the administrators took huge raises in 09-10. We also can't forget Achrmo took a pay increase over Crawford's salary.

Anonymous said...

anonymous 6:23 am
"lawyers are needed to defend frivolous lawsuits by teachers"

Uninformed, you don't seem to know the difference between a lawsuit or a procedural motion (even though legal).
To all School boards, when you violate anyone expect them to defend themselves.

School Boards need to take seriously all actions taken against anyone in their districts. Individuals do have the right to defend themselves. Remember, FOIL (freedom of information request from Greece School dist as former supt). Achramovitch racked up legal bills to the tune of almost $3 MILLION DOLLARS. "Lawyers love him" as an earlier post stated, "they get rich anywhere he is supt". See from earlier post why Ken/Ton and Greece refused to renew his contract as Supt. You wonder why any school dist would hire him with his less than stellar record.